A Global Food Philosophy,

with Julian Baggini

Is it wrong to eat meat? Should you have to kill it yourself? And why does a fairer food system have to be a more expensive one?

You can eat well, cheaply, and with more choice than any generation in history. Someone, somewhere, is paying for it, usually the poorest people, the animals, or the planet. Julian Baggini has spent years working out how our food system actually functions, and what it would take to make it fair.

This is not the conversation you expect. Julian argues that eating animals is not wrong in itself, that going vegan does not eliminate animal suffering, that lab-grown meat could be the food world's Theranos, and that the injustice baked into cheap food is a feature, not a bug. Along the way he lays out seven principles for a better food system and tests them against real cases: chocolate, coffee, salmon, cultured meat, and even food in space.

Julian is the author of more than 20 books, including "How the World Eats: A Global Food Philosophy". He co-founded The Philosophers' Magazine and has built his career making serious ideas clear for everyone.

Death in a shallow pond,

with david edmonds

You're walking past a shallow pond and a child is drowning. No one else is around. Of course you wade in, even if it ruins your expensive shoes. Now consider this: children are dying today from causes you could help prevent, for less than the price of those shoes. So why does the second case feel so different from the first? In 1972 the philosopher Peter Singer asked exactly that, and the question has unsettled moral philosophy ever since.

Hamza King sits down with David Edmonds to follow the argument from Singer's drowning child to the effective altruism movement, the rise and collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried, and the toughest objections that come back at it. David Edmonds is a philosopher, writer and broadcaster, and a Distinguished Research Fellow at the Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics. With Nigel Warburton he co-founded Philosophy Bites, one of the most listened-to philosophy podcasts in the world. He is the author of many books, including Wittgenstein's Poker, Would You Kill the Fat Man?, The Murder of Professor Schlick, and Parfit. His latest is Death in a Shallow Pond: A Philosopher, a Drowning Child, and Strangers in Need (2025), the subject of this conversation.